Curse

Greedy Gus · Jun 30, 2006, 03:22 PM // 15:22

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Originally Posted by GranDeWun

Fender's math on sundering posted above is misleading, however, because sundering gets better against higher AL. If tgt AL is 100, sundering = +8% damage (constant equivalent).

His math wasn't misleading at all, it was accurate:

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Originally Posted by fender

Against an AL 60 target w/ perfect 20/20 sundering your damage increases over base by 4.6% for all weapons.

sundering 20/20 vs AL 70 compared to base all weapons 6.4%

sundering 20/20 vs AL 100 compared to base all weapons 8.3%

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Originally Posted by GranDeWun

But the real question is: Does sundering apply to skill attacks? i.e. can it trigger if you use, say, Final Thrust? If so, it would be a very good mod...

Yes, the sundering mod can activate while using an attack skill, but it just affects the base damage. Attack skill damage is strictly added on top of any previous calculations.

Akhilleus · Jun 30, 2006, 03:29 PM // 15:29

even if the sundering mod itself could compete point-for-point on using a vampiric or elemental hilt (which, it cant) you have to also consider, its only being taken into effect 1/5 hits. if your foe manages to have a high base AC (200+) it could be very useful...but noone in the right mind would focus that much of their skill-lineup to purely ac-based defensive measures in pvp.

Aiiane · Jun 30, 2006, 10:17 PM // 22:17

It doesn't contradict the general conclusion of the thread, but I had actually done in-game testing on the damage numbers via standard methods (Wild Blow on Isle targets) for the Sundering mod. Results are here (Posted on GWO because I can link there from here, and not vice versa)

SaintGreg · Jul 01, 2006, 03:42 AM // 03:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by GranDeWun

Fender's math on sundering posted above is misleading, however, because sundering gets better against higher AL. If tgt AL is 100, sundering = +8% damage (constant equivalent).
But the real question is: Does sundering apply to skill attacks? i.e. can it trigger if you use, say, Final Thrust? If so, it would be a very good mod...

Fender math is fairly straightforward, the formatting on the other hand (or at least in the transcribed version) makes it difficult to decipher. The general idea is that at 60AL, sundering is 1/2 as good as vampiric. At 100AL, sundering goes down to being about 1/3 as good as vampiric.

Yes sundering still can trigger on skill attacks, see penetrating attack above. It only applies to the base portion of the damage, which is armor affected (basically what you'd hit for anyways). The additional damage listed in the skill description as say +42 is armor ignoring damage. They made it this way so you can't hit +dmg attacks for insanely high amounts by simply jacking up the armor penetration (I assume).

Warskull · Jul 02, 2006, 06:09 AM // 06:09

Sundering sucks less so than it used too and if it triggers on a crit can result in a nice damage boost. However vampic is still your damage booster of choice.

TheOneMephisto · Jul 02, 2006, 03:14 PM // 15:14

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Originally Posted by Warskull

Sundering sucks less so than it used too

I'm still trying to decifer this part.